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Lindam

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Hi everyone, I have a small channel 167 subscribers and IΓÇÖm hopeful that IΓÇÖll gain the milestone of 25000 views soon. I realise that itΓÇÖs common to lose subs, however I lost 3 this morning, one after another. It was quite funny really, you should have seen my face lol! I thought, ΓÇÿis this trajectory going to continue. Thankfully it stopped. Just wondered does this happen often. Quite new to the world of YouTube.
 
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Lindam

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Hi everyone, I have a small channel 167 subscribers and IΓÇÖm hopeful that IΓÇÖll gain the milestone of 25000 views soon. I realise that itΓÇÖs common to lose subs, however I lost 3 this morning, one after another. It was quite funny really, you should have seen my face lol! I thought, ΓÇÿis this trajectory going to continue. Thankfully it stopped. Just wondered does this happen often. Quite new to the world of YouTube.
Good question, It has happen to me all the times.. Annoying. But you get used to it sort of until im also shocked and almost had a nerve attack when someone UN-SUBSCRIBED.. I think that what just happened is that a Robot (bot) has added u so that the bot can try to spam your videos comments but i mean YouTube is always looking out for the viruses out there that means they get rid of bots in every aspects from what im understanding in this forum... Yesterday someone subscribed to me (wouldn't no who it is) But then today that user or the bot has unsubscribed to me. So in my theory it is logically understanding that if someone subscribe to your channel its because they want to stay with you....

Its too hard to believe a real USER will subscribe to you today and hours later or tomorrow the user will unsubscribed to you and leave... So it makes MORE sense that it is Fake bots... just bots that subscribed random people .... think of it like a virus worm that goes random add on and are attacked to peoples channels.... But the reason why you see it unsubscribed its MORE likely that Youtube automatically found out that the Bot was simply a bot and has deleted or took the bot AWAY FROM YOUR channel so that your channel doesn't get bombarded with spam and what not.

So that's what i believe i mean some real users will subscribe and then delete or some older subs will stay for weeks or months and then they got bored of my videos and they uninscribed. But the real part in this what i believe its simply more the BOTS... bots will subscribe to anyone... they don't give people LIKES on videos.. they just a virus that are attacked to peoples channels just so the bot can eventually work around by spamming your videos... So YouTube will of course get rid of the virus you know the (Bot) or the fake robot alike a user.

It has happened to me every-time.. kind of happy when someone subscribe to me and see the numbers blunting up... but then that 1 subscriber unsubscribed.. which means its MOST likely a bot and YouTube automatically kills every bot out there 24/7 a week.

So relax because im in the same situation as you.. This is what i believe and it wouldn't just be a real user who just subscribe to your channel and then the next day they unsubscribed.... really really i doughty it..... i mean unless the user is brain dead and doesn't no what he's doing. that its super hard to believe.... so its most likely a fake subscriber as in a (bot) yeah the bots... it sure wouldnt be a real subscriber... But also sometimes a real subscriber will do that but think of it that it's more to do with these horrible bots out there....

This is what and how i learn things from this wonderful forum.... thanks to the expertees or at least those who know things.

All the best and see what others have to say.
thanks so much,
Good question, It has happen to me all the times.. Annoying. But you get used to it sort of until im also shocked and almost had a nerve attack when someone UN-SUBSCRIBED.. I think that what just happened is that a Robot (bot) has added u so that the bot can try to spam your videos comments but i mean YouTube is always looking out for the viruses out there that means they get rid of bots in every aspects from what im understanding in this forum... Yesterday someone subscribed to me (wouldn't no who it is) But then today that user or the bot has unsubscribed to me. So in my theory it is logically understanding that if someone subscribe to your channel its because they want to stay with you....

Its too hard to believe a real USER will subscribe to you today and hours later or tomorrow the user will unsubscribed to you and leave... So it makes MORE sense that it is Fake bots... just bots that subscribed random people .... think of it like a virus worm that goes random add on and are attacked to peoples channels.... But the reason why you see it unsubscribed its MORE likely that Youtube automatically found out that the Bot was simply a bot and has deleted or took the bot AWAY FROM YOUR channel so that your channel doesn't get bombarded with spam and what not.

So that's what i believe i mean some real users will subscribe and then delete or some older subs will stay for weeks or months and then they got bored of my videos and they uninscribed. But the real part in this what i believe its simply more the BOTS... bots will subscribe to anyone... they don't give people LIKES on videos.. they just a virus that are attacked to peoples channels just so the bot can eventually work around by spamming your videos... So YouTube will of course get rid of the virus you know the (Bot) or the fake robot alike a user.

It has happened to me every-time.. kind of happy when someone subscribe to me and see the numbers blunting up... but then that 1 subscriber unsubscribed.. which means its MOST likely a bot and YouTube automatically kills every bot out there 24/7 a week.

So relax because im in the same situation as you.. This is what i believe and it wouldn't just be a real user who just subscribe to your channel and then the next day they unsubscribed.... really really i doughty it..... i mean unless the user is brain dead and doesn't no what he's doing. that its super hard to believe.... so its most likely a fake subscriber as in a (bot) yeah the bots... it sure wouldnt be a real subscriber... But also sometimes a real subscriber will do that but think of it that it's more to do with these horrible bots out there....

This is what and how i learn things from this wonderful forum.... thanks to the expertees or at least those who know things.

All the best and see what others have to say.
Thanks Ken, itΓÇÖs reassuring to know that it happens to others as well.
 
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It happens. I lose subscribers with just about every video I upload. The main thing is over a year that you gain more subscribers than you lose.
ThatΓÇÖs one way to look at it Damon. Thanks for your comment.
 

Xavier De Buck

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Hi everyone, I have a small channel 167 subscribers and IΓÇÖm hopeful that IΓÇÖll gain the milestone of 25000 views soon. I realise that itΓÇÖs common to lose subs, however I lost 3 this morning, one after another. It was quite funny really, you should have seen my face lol! I thought, ΓÇÿis this trajectory going to continue. Thankfully it stopped. Just wondered does this happen often. Quite new to the world of YouTube.
100%, Linda!

Here are my last 28-day SUBSCRIBERS GAINED vs LOST stats...it happens to all of us.

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Xavier De Buck

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Yeah it is MOST likely just random Bots that goes around like a virus where the bot (fake user) subscribes as many people's on YouTube. It's simply hard to really believe that a real user would Subscribe to your channel and then they Unsubscribed hours or days later... (It all depends and the situation of your video contents of course) but if someone willing to subscribe to you.. they would of already have watch 1 or more of your video content BEFORE he or she desires to subscribe to your channel. It sure wouldn't be a fool who subscribes and then unsubscribed hours later... Unless the person is out of he's or her's mind... But sounds like bots. I get this all the damn times..

Bots are just automatically fake ghost user where it just spreads around all over YouTube and subscribes to everyone by the (random) so what happens there is that once they subscribe to someones channel like yours for example the bot will then advertise on your comments on your videos as in actually spamming your channel by adding porn website links and whatever.... I really hate when this happened.. it has happen to me a few small times 3 months ago.. i blocked and i report it for spamming the comments on my videos by adding a porn website link... Horrible... That's what bots do.. bots subscribe to random channels and they just want to advertise by spamming your channel.. if that happens report it or block it all the times.

Its MOST likely the bots.. But why do they unsubscribe? YouTube most likely banned users that are seen as Bots.... think of it this way.... you have inserts in your house and in the bedrooms... you must call the spray professional's let them come in and randomly spray the whole house to kill the virus and the inserts... Now your house is clean free from virus and insets and what ever else.. Just like that well Youtube automatically doesn't spray youtube.. But will automatically BANNED as many as fakes BOTS as possible every 24 hours a day 24/7 days a week... Not sure how YouTube can handle this work with over 1million of users using YouTube.. But must be automatically banned. Then youtube automatically detects and banned the bot... thats WHEN YOU will SEE your channel start to show that (someone has just Unsubscribed and your back to 99 subscribers when you just had 100 subscribes just hours ago.. that 1 Bot would of made it to 100 making it look like you have a new subscriber but that just 1 or more was actually not real but more of a bot... and when YouTube banned that bot.. you can clearly see that the BOT has quickly unsubscribed to your channel because the bot got banned on YouTube for spamming around random peoples channels.... So its most likely bots... but also can be real users who some how unsubscribed to your channel for a reason or because.... they got bored easily of your video or whatever the weirdest thing peoples mind...... but hard to imagined it.

Good luck.

I respectfully disagree that it's all bots or even 'ghost users'.

It's the "way of social media life" - you gain some; you lose some. Here's a screenshot of my INSTAGRAM and if I were to check my TT, I'd find similar numbers of subs/unsubs... (to put things in perspective, I used to grow by 300 followers a day about a year ago)

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There's an article I read on that topic quite some time ago - I had asked ChatGPT to summarise it for me so I'd have it on file - here's the screenshot/takeaway which I honestly think nailed it on the head.

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Hi everyone, I have a small channel 167 subscribers and IΓÇÖm hopeful that IΓÇÖll gain the milestone of 25000 views soon. I realise that itΓÇÖs common to lose subs, however I lost 3 this morning, one after another.

25k subs...soon? Maybe shoot for smaller milestones at first. ;) I have several small channels myself and this pattern is very normal and expected. But yah... it's always much more noticeable for smaller channels when you lose a sub or 2. lol..
 
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I respectfully disagree that it's all bots or even 'ghost users'.

It's the "way of social media life" - you gain some; you lose some. Here's a screenshot of my INSTAGRAM and if I were to check my TT, I'd find similar numbers of subs/unsubs... (to put things in perspective, I used to grow by 300 followers a day about a year ago)

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There's an article I read on that topic quite some time ago - I had asked ChatGPT to summarise it for me so I'd have it on file - here's the screenshot/takeaway which I honestly think nailed it on the head.

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Thank you Xavier, thatΓÇÖs so interesting.
25k subs...soon? Maybe shoot for smaller milestones at first. ;) I have several small channels myself and this pattern is very normal and expected. But yah... it's always much more noticeable for smaller channels when you lose a sub or 2. lol..
 
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25k subs...soon? Maybe shoot for smaller milestones at first. ;) I have several small channels myself and this pattern is very normal and expected. But yah... it's always much more noticeable for smaller channels when you lose a sub or 2. lol..
"One day; one day" I always say - at least @Lindam has the next realistic milestone of 1,000 set in her profile
 
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I respectfully disagree that it's all bots or even 'ghost users'.

It's the "way of social media life" - you gain some; you lose some.

Correct. When someone unsubscribes, it can mean they lost interest. But another person hops on to replace them. Hopefully, we end up with net gains. But it is entirely possible to have net losses too.

I don't claim to be an expert on social media, but users come and go. They get interested, then lose interest later. I subscribe and later unsubscribe to some channels because my list ends up getting too long to keep up with.

It isn't a stretch that others will both subscribe and unsubscribe on us too.
 

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Correct. When someone unsubscribes, it can mean they lost interest. But another person hops on to replace them. Hopefully, we end up with net gains. But it is entirely possible to have net losses too.

I don't claim to be an expert on social media, but users come and go. They get interested, then lose interest later. I subscribe and later unsubscribe to some channels because my list ends up getting too long to keep up with.

It isn't a stretch that others will both subscribe and unsubscribe on us too.
Exactly my thinking AND how I go about it as well. I used to be all over a certain topic and learnt as much as I could about it - felt comfy enough to stop 'absorbing it' as much, unsubscribed and moved onto the next topic to learn by subscribing new channels!
 
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cubes 2048: Hi everyone, I have a small channel 167 subscribers and IΓÇÖm hopeful that IΓÇÖll gain the milestone of 25000 views soon. I realise that itΓÇÖs common to lose subs, however I lost 3 this morning, one after another. It was quite funny really, you should have seen my face lol! I thought, ΓÇÿis this trajectory going to continue. Thankfully it stopped. Just wondered does this happen often. Quite new to the world of YouTube.
Don't worry! Maybe three subscribers that you lose are ghost users. Keep creating engaging and informative content and designing an interesting look for your channel in order to gain more subcribers.
 
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So as ive explain it in details mainly by my truth opinions.. Just because people say oh it has to be a (ghost bot) who suddently unbscribed to the channel.. Does NOT mean everyone has to believe that from someone who doesnt even work for the Youtube CEO head office... Just because people talk about that part of bots... every one has to believe and spreads the words out there. I personally dont beleive that. I believe that (i just dont no if its a real user doing that or simply a bot) After all there is millions of users scrolling around youtube world wide every 24/7 of the day non stoppable.

I also get this annonymous of who just unbscribed and later 5 hours later the so what user has subscribed to me but i cant find out who did that if its a user he or her profile is invisible against me. This happens to me frequently... Today 1 user or maybe a user disappears off my channel... i had 466 subribers still for a week.. Today it turns out 465..... 5 hours or 10 hours later its back to 466... then its back to 465... how interesting... now iuts solid 466 back like it used to.. Who and why and what i have NO idea who does this or is someone playing just games with me as they think im looking at the numbers in my channel. or just maybe a stupid immaturity person doing that OR might as well be a ghost bot. But ghost bots dont just susbcribe and stay there for weeks... they would susbcribe and unscirbed within the same day or even hours less... But not always the case.. Could be someone playing up or just a weirdo subscribes and unscribed to the channel..

Like i said we just dont no.. Please dont come up the conclution that a bot did that without proof evidence. Just because people talk about that... you have to beleive it and spreadm the words ? Nope.. So lets say its a UNDENTIFIED person or a bot.. Its one of the both and that's all it is.. And not just a human and not just a bot that did that. After all like i said theres millions of users right now tune into youtube. Your one of them like me too... Try figuire that out. If theres bots... then does that mean there are 15 million ghost bots to do that to every single user in the 15 million users on youtube? I dont beleive thats the case.. because if thats the case 15million bots is quite alot for every per person account.. try figuire that out.

Yes its annoying when that happens... unsbcribed... then subcribed and so on back and forth.. I dont no why people do that and or why or reason or whatever the case may be... Its a weird world as you know it. NOW unless YOUTUBE CEO head office is automatically doing that to everyone to reduce the mount that goes on youtube.. Maybe they trying to cut down random users.. But i dont no... after all theres like 15 million profiles... 15+ million users watch and scrolling youtube channels and videos... So its quite a lot going on from criminals to weirdos... to inteligents to bots and yes bots but from how many bots there are on youtube is also im not sure and you sure wouldnt no neither.

Yes its sad when that happens... its annoying and happens its almost like as if youtube themseves is trying to bush back been your self popularity less with less subscribers.. as if youtube doesnt want you to be popular with big susbcribers numbers stacking up... i dont no.. BOTS .... real users doing it.. we all just dont no :)
I honestly believe you're overthinking it.

Some people subscribe to one's channel and will unsubscribe for whatever reason a minute, hour, day later. You posted too little, too much, the wrong thing, too much of the right thing, who knows...they've decided to change their minds.

Meanwhile, some other unknown person in the billions of YT users decides to subscribe / unsubscribe around the same time, and the overlapping action of just those two are confusing you. No need to look any deeper. You'll never know.

Now that this mystery is solved, let's talk about exciting stuff that should matter to you: what new videos are you working on? Editing any at the moment?
 
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Now that this mystery is solved, let's talk about exciting stuff that should matter to you: what new videos are you working on? Editing any at the moment?

This! It's so sad to see almost no one talk about the content they're creating. It's almost like they really don't care about the content. That is the really limiting factor for most people. They really don't care about the content nor the people they're trying to serve.
 

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Yes its annoying when that happens... unsbcribed... then subcribed and so on back and forth.. I dont no why people do that and or why or reason or whatever the case may be... Its a weird world as you know it.

Start analyzing your data maybe 1-2 times a month at the most, your numbers will show a more stable pattern.
 
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This! It's so sad to see almost no one talk about the content they're creating. It's almost like they really don't care about the content. That is the really limiting factor for most people. They really don't care about the content nor the people they're trying to serve.

Hi Damon, I can't "tolk" "bout" "contented" "stragity". I am still "poonndering" "Y" I got one "unsuscried" at 3:34am and why I got one "subscried" at 9:03am and another "subdive" at 12:03pm.

Until I "git" 2 the "absoluutte" "bottum" of "theess" & do an algebraic, formulaic, computational analysis of these "eevents", I REFUSE to move "4ward"!
 

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People often sub because they like a single video, but they never watch anything else on the channel and later unsubscribe when cleaning up their feed. But what might cause the loss of a bunch of subscribers at once, could be YouTube deleting the accounts for being bots. It is common for bot farms to subs to accounts for the purpose of scam posting. Once YT identifies the bot farm and its associated accounts, they may delete hundreds if not thousands of accounts at once. If that bot farm had subbed to your channel, any accounts that were in their pool would be deleted and you would lose those subs. It would seem on your end that a bunch of people unsubbed, but that would not be the case.
 

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I catch bots sometimes when they post comments on my videos. They present as a conversation between viewers, kind of like our conversation here. This is how it looks sometimes. The first commenter asks a question, and then a second commenter answers that question with a solution, that includes a link to some obscure site. The original commenter comes back in and claims that this site really helped them out and thanks the second commenter for the help.

These comments are engineered so as to look completely organic, but I can spot them easily. I generally block and report these accounts once I have investigated them and am sure they are bots.
 
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Reading comprehension, my friend. It works every time it is tried. ;)


People often sub because they like a single video, but they never watch anything else on the channel and later unsubscribe when cleaning up their feed. But what might cause the loss of a bunch of subscribers at once, could be YouTube deleting the accounts for being bots.