Editing Software Quicktime vs MP4, and Other Fun Things

[WonderMonkey]

I tried to find this topic with Search, and couldn't. I was sure this would have been asked a few times. If you know of another thread or video which slaps me into understanding, please let me know!

FYI I'm using Divinci Resolve, the free version until I'm sure I like it, but I'm not sure if that matters. In my video editing software, I get many options to render. I film from my GoPro 9 in 30 fps for my action shots. I'm finding differing opinions on what settings to use. I'm testing right now (several renders in the queue) but I thought I'd ask a few basic questions for those that have already gone through this.

First, MP4 or Quicktime?
Once you have that, do you render at the resolution you shot the film in or do you bump it up a notch. Many are saying bump it up to Ultra HD (UHD). I get the below warning in two different editing packages (slightly different message).

I'm using the H.264 codec. H.265 isn't available the free version on my pc, if this matters at all.
Some are also saying to go double frame rate in Kb/s quality, do you have an opinion on that?
Lastly, can you do an experiment and watch it on your computer to see what looks better, or do you need to upload it to youtube to do that?

I know there are several questions in here, but rendering video seems like the kind of magic that you get burned at the stake for, and I don't like that kind of heat!

Thanks in advance.

 

[SILTHW]

I tried to find this topic with Search, and couldn't. I was sure this would have been asked a few times. If you know of another thread or video which slaps me into understanding, please let me know!

FYI I'm using Divinci Resolve, the free version until I'm sure I like it, but I'm not sure if that matters. In my video editing software, I get many options to render. I film from my GoPro 9 in 30 fps for my action shots. I'm finding differing opinions on what settings to use. I'm testing right now (several renders in the queue) but I thought I'd ask a few basic questions for those that have already gone through this.

First, MP4 or Quicktime?
Once you have that, do you render at the resolution you shot the film in or do you bump it up a notch. Many are saying bump it up to Ultra HD (UHD). I get the below warning in two different editing packages (slightly different message).
View attachment 9506
I'm using the H.264 codec. H.265 isn't available the free version on my pc, if this matters at all.
Some are also saying to go double frame rate in Kb/s quality, do you have an opinion on that?
Lastly, can you do an experiment and watch it on your computer to see what looks better, or do you need to upload it to youtube to do that?

I know there are several questions in here, but rendering video seems like the kind of magic that you get burned at the stake for, and I don't like that kind of heat!

Thanks in advance.

Lots packed in here, so I'm going to try and be efficient with my answers. Ask any clarifying questions.

First - format. YouTube suggests an .mp4 container with h.264 video and AAC-LC for audio.
Size - Now days 1080p or better is preferred. Most modern software can "upscale" content to higher resolutions, although it is typically easier to shoot in a higher resolution and downscale.
Framerate - YouTube supports 24, 25, 30, 48, 50 ang 60 fps. In simple terms, you can effectively double or half your framerate, but other changes can result in weird sync problems. So 24 can become 48. 25 can become 50. 60 can become 30. But it is hard to convert 24 to 25 or 48 to 50. Note - the slower the framerate the more it looks like a movie. The higher the framerate the more it looks like video.

To your final question, YouTube transcodes what you upload to a format that is better for streaming, so there is always a difference in what you upload and what they show. You will notice it the most in dark areas of a video, especially when shown on a larger screen. You may also see some "tearing" in fast motion.

Answer on Mbps are resolution specific and in the article I linked above.

 

[WonderMonkey]

Thanks! I will go read that link! I appreciate the response.

 

[Bulltahr]

Watch this guy's videos on Gopro settings,he has several and this is probably the best one:

View: https://youtu.be/wpAk0QGjc6U
and yes, your delivery format should be MP4............

 

[WonderMonkey]

Watch this guy's videos on Gopro settings,he has several and this is probably the best one:

View: https://youtu.be/wpAk0QGjc6U
and yes, your delivery format should be MP4............

Thanks! I'll do just that.

 

[Beanie Draws]

I've moved this to Gear Discussions as it really feels more like a discussion on file formats rather than a conversation about YouTube it'self.

That being said I haven't touched .MOV in a long time. QuickTime was a great way to screen record back in the day, but now days I stick to MP4. MP4 seems a lot more universal and you'll find QuickTime formats have quite a few compatibility issues, especially on PC considering I believe it's an Apple proprietary format.

 

[SILTHW]

...MP4 seems a lot more universal and you'll find QuickTime formats have quite a few compatibility issues, especially on PC considering I believe it's an Apple proprietary format...

This is exactly correct.

Both are container formats. MP4 is a global standard managed by the International Standards Organization (ISO). QuickTime was developed and is owned by Apple.

 

[Bears and Butters]

I tried to find this topic with Search, and couldn't. I was sure this would have been asked a few times. If you know of another thread or video which slaps me into understanding, please let me know!

FYI I'm using Divinci Resolve, the free version until I'm sure I like it, but I'm not sure if that matters. In my video editing software, I get many options to render. I film from my GoPro 9 in 30 fps for my action shots. I'm finding differing opinions on what settings to use. I'm testing right now (several renders in the queue) but I thought I'd ask a few basic questions for those that have already gone through this.

First, MP4 or Quicktime?
Once you have that, do you render at the resolution you shot the film in or do you bump it up a notch. Many are saying bump it up to Ultra HD (UHD). I get the below warning in two different editing packages (slightly different message).
View attachment 9506
I'm using the H.264 codec. H.265 isn't available the free version on my pc, if this matters at all.
Some are also saying to go double frame rate in Kb/s quality, do you have an opinion on that?
Lastly, can you do an experiment and watch it on your computer to see what looks better, or do you need to upload it to youtube to do that?

I know there are several questions in here, but rendering video seems like the kind of magic that you get burned at the stake for, and I don't like that kind of heat!

Thanks in advance.

The K-Lite codec Pack is free, and the full version has the H.256 codec.. Just Google it, and you should find it and can read the info on their page.

 

[Bears and Butters]

This is exactly correct.

Both are container formats. MP4 is a global standard managed by the International Standards Organization (ISO). QuickTime was developed and is owned by Apple.

Any ISO compliant formats are always great!!

 

[Doug B]

That being said I haven't touched .MOV in a long time. QuickTime was a great way to screen record back in the day, but now days I stick to MP4. MP4 seems a lot more universal and you'll find QuickTime formats have quite a few compatibility issues, especially on PC considering I believe it's an Apple proprietary format.

Here's something weird about that - I did a DaVinci Resolve test file in .MOV format. The Apple TV app on my Mac Mini added it to its library with no problem. Tried to view it on on our large screen via Apple TV 4K - nope. MP4s will play just fine, but Apple's own software won't play its own proprietary format. I was literally speechless when I tested this!