Affiliate Question Suggestion: Use someone (anyone) other than PayPal

Discussion in 'Affilates' started by PonchYT, Sep 10, 2017.

  1. PonchYT

    PonchYT New User

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2017
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hey guys, first off I want to say I love TubeBuddy. Super useful features, 5/5 would recommend to a friend.

    I have one suggestion though: drop PayPal and use *literally* any other payment processor.

    Time and time again, PayPal puts holds on accounts, closes accounts without asking, etc which always ends up with the account holder left high and dry. Here are just a few discussions on Reddit about how bad of an idea it is to use PayPal:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/paypal/comments/6lhxme/what_happens_when_you_pay_paypal_15k_in_fees/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/6k9z5f/psa_paypal_just_did_a_mass_chargeback_on_psn/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/startups/comments/5pdwww/advice_do_not_use_paypal_as_a_form_of_payment_if/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/510bna/new_paypal_tos_say_dont_talk_bad_about_paypal_and/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Entreprene...ypal_just_froze_over_70000_in_my_account_say/

    Huge note here: these stories come from every different industry and level of user, from huge businesses down to private consumers. Entrepreneurs, cryptocurrency miners, and freaking video gamers have all been hit by PayPal closing their accounts, putting holds, draining it, etc.

    If you want proof, look at the literally hundreds of comments in each of those thread relating their stories of accounts get frozen, locked, banned, or drained with no recourse or communication. Or, search for the countless other threads where people experience the exact same things. Just look at the /r/entrepreneur and /r/startup subreddits and you will see many stories of companies literally going out of business because they were using PayPal as their primary financial channel.

    In addition to running my YouTube channel on computer benchmarks and builds, I also run a real-life business in the audio industry. We will never work with PayPal. It is simply too dangerous.

    My suggestion? Use a different payment processor. Not just for the benefit of us (your affiliates), but for your own sake.

    All that aside, I really do like your work and that's why I'm happy to recommend TubeBuddy to other people. Keep it up, guys.
     


  2. Andrew

    Andrew Superman Administrator

    Joined:
    May 6, 2016
    Messages:
    2,143
    Likes Received:
    1,389
    Hmm, I'll tag @Phil I don't think getting rid of paypal is the solution, but perhaps offering other payout methods.

    Though I think you have fair points, and thank you for sharing!
     


  3. Tito Tim

    Tito Tim Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2017
    Messages:
    138
    Likes Received:
    90
    I have heard of Paypal problems but have never had one. I used Paypal for many years. I used to run all my E-Bay auctions through them. I still use them to manage my US bills, from the Philippines. I use them to pay for all kinds of online shopping. No need to get rid of them. They offer a great service.
     


    Wendy and Andrew like this.
  4. Andrew

    Andrew Superman Administrator

    Joined:
    May 6, 2016
    Messages:
    2,143
    Likes Received:
    1,389
    Agreed, but like I said adding another option might be a good idea, but am not sure how easy it would be. Again waiting on @Phil :)
     


  5. Draconicrose

    Draconicrose Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2017
    Messages:
    87
    Likes Received:
    84
    As long as you pay attention to PayPal's terms of service you're unlikely to have a problem and when you do, PayPal support will definitely help you deal with that. I do think it'd be nice to provide other payment options, just in case people don't use PayPal.
     


    Andrew likes this.
  6. Wendy

    Wendy New User

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2017
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    2
    I think people are familiar with PayPal. I personally would choose it to pay for something online over any other option. I use PayPal to receive most of my Payments (for around 9 years) and have never had any issues. Great to offer options but keep PayPal.
     


    Andrew and Tito Tim like this.
  7. kunicross

    kunicross Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2017
    Messages:
    163
    Likes Received:
    114
    I think pay pal suffers a bit from being the biggest player, no business runs 100% perfectly and I wouldn't trust thousands of dollars to sit savely in my PayPal account - but hey I also had issues with normal banks that payments got delayed and such due to software problems - people usually blow those things out of proportion. For example Amazon had massiv payment problems in Europe the last couple of weeks - sure thats unfortunate but it's the kind of thing every business has to consider and be prepared and most of the time it's really difficulties and not mal intend - companies like Amazon and PayPal do suffer much more for the lost trust than they may gain by having that extra money on their accounts.
     


    Andrew likes this.
  8. xingcat

    xingcat Active Member TubeBuddy Star

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2017
    Messages:
    440
    Likes Received:
    289
    I, personally, have never had any issues with PayPal, but I think a few other options may be helpful to those who don't, or can't use it.
     


  9. Tito Tim

    Tito Tim Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2017
    Messages:
    138
    Likes Received:
    90
    Other options could not hurt - but Paypal is one of the only ones I trust. I have refused to do business with sites using services I have never heard of.
     


    Damon and kunicross like this.
  10. Andrew

    Andrew Superman Administrator

    Joined:
    May 6, 2016
    Messages:
    2,143
    Likes Received:
    1,389
    I believe we want to add them, but will tag @Phil for more input :)
     


  11. Damon

    Damon Member Member of the Month

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2017
    Messages:
    136
    Likes Received:
    92
    Yeah, Amazon Pay, Google Pay, Apple Pay. Just go down the list. I've never had problems with Pay Pal. I've been using them since the 1990s.
     


    Andrew likes this.
  12. Phil

    Phil Administrator Administrator

    Joined:
    May 7, 2016
    Messages:
    339
    Likes Received:
    502
    We have personally never had a major problem with PayPal and been using them as a business for 10+ years. They are a great, simple way to send money to affiliates because most people have a PayPal account already. I understand that some people have had problems with PayPal but I'm sure that goes for nearly every payment processing company on the planet. I know that PayPal restricts certain countries so for that reason specifically we have looked into other options but haven't found a simple solution. So - back to @PonchYT 's original request - I would ask for 1 alternative that you would like (that is widely used and available in all countries) and I'll see what I can do to get it added. It might not sound like it but I actually don't like PayPal as a business, they just happen to be easy to work with and convenient for everyone. Thanks, Phil
     


    Andrew likes this.
Loading...