Question Is anybody here a vegetarian or vegan?

EV Nick

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nope but i done some videos with vegans and vegan related videos as it links up with my channel slightly as it reduces CO2 from the world, if you see a guestvlog i did with "she's Electric" shes a vegan and her husband has a youtube channel he's just started "tofu Steve"
 
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I'm a vegetarian for about 3 years now I think, its not really hard to do but it's also not a totally eye-opening life change.

I think the more settle approach is greatly reducing your meat intake and only/mostly consuming high quality meat from trusted local production.

Veganism is a bit extreme and does require some serious meal planing etc. To stay healthy (which in itself is maybe the best part of it (health wise) but makes it just much harder than being "just" vegetarian)

If you want to be a vegetarian for whatever reason my advice would be to just try it out, as I said it's really easy and not a big change.
Going vegan is a bit more complicated, I knew people who did that and ended up just eating potato chips which is not the best thing on a long term. - You really need to learn about eating right, plan your meals, cook yourself and probably still need B12 supplements to stay healthy long term there - on the up side most processed stuff and almost all restaurants are not vegan so there is a potential health benifit.
 
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nope but i done some videos with vegans and vegan related videos as it links up with my channel slightly as it reduces CO2 from the world, if you see a guestvlog i did with "she's Electric" shes a vegan and her husband has a youtube channel he's just started "tofu Steve"
Cool.
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I'm a vegetarian for about 3 years now I think, its not really hard to do but it's also not a totally eye-opening life change.

I think the more settle approach is greatly reducing your meat intake and only/mostly consuming high quality meat from trusted local production.

Veganism is a bit extreme and does require some serious meal planing etc. To stay healthy (which in itself is maybe the best part of it (health wise) but makes it just much harder than being "just" vegetarian)

If you want to be a vegetarian for whatever reason my advice would be to just try it out, as I said it's really easy and not a big change.
Going vegan is a bit more complicated, I knew people who did that and ended up just eating potato chips which is not the best thing on a long term. - You really need to learn about eating right, plan your meals, cook yourself and probably still need B12 supplements to stay healthy long term there - on the up side most processed stuff and almost all restaurants are not vegan so there is a potential health benifit.
Cool. Thanks. I've always wanted to try it for health reasons and because I feel bad for the animals.
 
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I have a friend who is vegan, and she loves it. She's very happy with her decision, but one thing I respect is that she doesn't shove it in my face. Remember, it's a PERSONAL lifestyle choice, and I think if it makes you happy, and you remain healthy go for it!
 

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I have a friend who is vegan, and she loves it. She's very happy with her decision, but one thing I respect is that she doesn't shove it in my face. Remember, it's a PERSONAL lifestyle choice, and I think if it makes you happy, and you remain healthy go for it!
yep same with EL shes never forced talked me vegan or said anything when i eat meat
 
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I have a friend who is vegan, and she loves it. She's very happy with her decision, but one thing I respect is that she doesn't shove it in my face. Remember, it's a PERSONAL lifestyle choice, and I think if it makes you happy, and you remain healthy go for it!
Thanks. Sadly, many vegetarians and vegans think they're saving the world by trying to force everybody else to agree with them, but really all they're doing is annoying people and angering them!
 

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I'm not a vegetarian or a vegan since that's not something I can do. Though I knew someone who was a pescetarian (eats fish and seafood), which honestly would suit my lifestyle more if I ever were to stray away from "meat" xD
 
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Visit my blog for some great, deliciously tasty recipes and tips on converting over to veganism www.blacksgoingvegan.com. 90% of the vegan recipes there I developed myself. I also have a cookbook out that was very well received. The good thing about converting over now is that veganism is gaining in popularity worldwide, so the options for food even when you go out to eat at restaurants, is getting better and better!
 
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Visit my blog for some great, deliciously tasty recipes and tips on converting over to veganism www.blacksgoingvegan.com. 90% of the vegan recipes there I developed myself. I also have a cookbook out that was very well received. The good thing about converting over now is that veganism is gaining in popularity worldwide, so the options for food even when you go out to eat at restaurants, is getting better and better!
Cool. Thanks. I've been thinking about doing this for a while.
 

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So, you're saying I should shut down my entire YouTube channel--a fishing channel? Killing a human being is different than killing an animal because human being are far more valuable than animals. And somehow you've forgotten the entire sacrificial system God himself implemented to cover the sins of the people, not to mention him sacrificing himself when the proper time came.

God himself gave us animals for food after the Flood, as there were no edible plants available as of that time, so . . .

If a person kills an animal out of hate and rage, yes, that is sinful, but even in the Law there were provisions to provide to the replacement of a person killing a neighbors animal. This is what we call restitution in modern court system. The valuing of an animal is lesser than the value of human life created in God's image.
 
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Sorry guys but I hate vegans just because, as you can see from one of the latest reply, they think who eat meet is a killer and need to be destroyed: at this point I think we can compare Charles Darwin and the food chain theory to Adolf Hitler or Iosif Stalin.

If you want to be vegan I don't care but please, don't pissed me off.

P.S.: when you all eat salad, be sure to gently remove any bugs in order to avoid any drown in the sink or worst, any bugs murder
 
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I am veg because of the following reasons::

You must not kill any living being for the sake of your food.


The killing is the greatest sin


You must not kill any living being for the sake of your food. God has given enough vegetable food that contains all the ingredients present in the non-vegetarian food. After all, the source of ingredients of any flesh is only vegetable kingdom only. Eating the non-vegetarian food is not a sin because same ingredients exist in both vegetarian and non-vegetarian foods. But, you have to kill a living being for the sake of non-vegetarian food. The killing is the greatest sin.



You may argue that you have not killed the living being directly. Such argument cannot stand. Since you are eating the non-vegetarian food, the living being is killed. You are responsible for its killing. Therefore, you are the principle shareholder of the sin. There is nothing wrong if you eat a living being after its natural death. In Hinduism, there is a sect of people called ΓÇÿKapalikas, who eat the dead living beings. Therefore, they do not acquire sin. The tsunami is always due to anger of God since you are killing the living beings present in water for food. The earthquakes are due to killing of living beings that exist on the earth. God in the form of Buddha and Mahavir preached the non-violence and severely opposed the killing of living beings.



God in some other human forms might have followed the practice of non-vegetarian food in order to join with non-vegetarian people so that, certain other higher aspects to be preached might have been taken into consideration. That does not mean that God has encouraged the killing of living beings through non-vegetarian food. He might have kept silent on this issue in order to give importance to other serious issues. God follows the ignorance of the students in order to become friendly with them. To control a running bull, you have to run along with it for some distance before controlling it.



All these are the basic concepts of nivrutti, which are the core of pravrutti. By following the ethics of pravrutti, you will avoid God becoming furious with you. Then, through nivrutti, you can please God. On one hand, you are making God furious by not following the ethics of pravrutti and how can you please God through nivrutti simultaneously?







NEVER KILL ANIMALS! IT IS A GRAVE SIN



My dear disciple! Listen Me. Non-violence is the roof of the justice. The animal nature shall be killed and not the animal! If you succeed in pravrutti, God will drag you in Nivrutti also.



[The greatest sin is violence (ahimsaaparamodharmah), which means hurting or killing any good living being. People have misunderstood that animals are to be killed in sacrifice done for God. The Veda says that the animal to be killed is the rigid ignorance and stupidity of the animal-nature and not the actual animal itself (manyuhpashuh - Veda)! The word ΓÇÿajaa means goat as well as food grains stored for three years (so that they are not useful for germination) from which the flour is prepared and a paste of it is used to prepare the statue of the animal. Such statue of animal is to be cut as a symbolic act. Without understanding the latter intended sense, people have started killing the goats in sacrifice!



Any animal including cow or bird of soft nature should not be killed for the sake of food. Scripture says that a Brahmin should not be killed, but, Ravana (Brahmin) was killed by God. Brahmin means any living being (including human being) that does not harm you even if you harm it (ghaatamnaghaatayetviprah). The deity of justice surrendered to God Datta in the form of a cow. Cow slaughter means slaughter of justice. If justice is slaughtered, the cow is slaughtered and not reverse. Any soft-natured animal including cow or bird or human being should not be slaughtered. Slaughter of justice is the whole and slaughter of Cow is a part of it. This is the essence of the climax of justice. If you are not doing the three sins mentioned in the Gita, God will be very much pleased with you and pushes you in the path of Nivrutti also to make you His nearest and dearest!]
Cool. That was very detailed.
 

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To kill an innocent animal like deer for food, you are not a tiger or a lion staying in the natural forest following the natural set-up. At least, the tiger or lion is excused because it will never eat vegetarian food. You are a human being granted with sharp intelligence that does sharp analysis and you have the option of vegetarian food. You also eat the vegetarian food. If you kill an innocent animal like goat/buffalo/chicken etc for your food, even though you have the option of the alternative vegetarian food, your attitude is proceeding in such a direction so that you will harm any innocent human being also for your enjoyment even though you have the alternative option for such enjoyment. This is more than sadism because a sadist enjoys by harming another person and he has no alternative person there for such enjoyment. If you analyze this subject through your sharp intelligence, you will find that the vegetarian food is far better than non-vegetarian food as per the medical science.



The proteins extracted by you from the plants in your vegetarian food are primary and are very good for health. The proteins taken by the animals from plants are re-synthesized in the body of the animal and such proteins are secondary only. The secondary proteins are not good for health. Therefore, as a student of science, you should act in every step after doing scientific analysis only. Apart from this, consider the path of sympathy, kindness and human compassion on seeing the agony of the bird or animal just after cutting it. If you do not give any consideration to these values and be cruel only, neither you are fit to study the science nor fit to study the arts having human values.



God came in human forms like Buddha and Mahaveera on this single programme only and preached the non-violence. Even though you do not participate in the killing of animal or bird, you become the due partner of the sin since the butcher is killing animals and birds to supply the mutton (meat) based on the demand of purchasers like you only. The scripture says that the non-violence is the highest justice (Ahimsaa paramo dharmah...). Even the plants have life but their mind is very primitive and hence the pain is very negligible compared to the birds, animals and human beings. Even in the case of plants, they are cut only after death, which ripens on losing the chlorophyll.



Parvati was called as Aparna because she did not even pluck the green leaves for her food during her penance. The sin is not in the non-vegetarian food, which is as good as vegetarian food, if you analyze the constituents like the common carbohydrates, proteins, vitamins, minerals etc. The sin lies only in the pain experienced by the animal or the bird in its death. Think a while that you are in its position and then discuss the subject. There is no sin in eating a naturally dead animal and a sect of Hindus called as Kapalikas do this and are not found fault for this. The word ΓÇÿMaamsa or mutton is derived like this ΓÇ£As this fellow (sa) kills me (Maam) now, I will kill him in the next birthΓÇ¥. Based on this, you become the innocent goat and the innocent goat becomes the butcher in the next birth so that the pain is practically experienced by you.

Next time you will face a tiger, tell her that you are vegan: I eat meet just because i love meet and not because I like to kill a cow...I don't eat fish just because i don't like fish: I'm omnivor and I eat what I like despite if it healty or not.
Why don't you care more about poor kids that live in terrible condition instead of what other eat?

For me as well, this discussion is closed
 
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When some living being is killed, the soul in it experiences torture.
If you believe in souls... I was in the priesthood for a few years, then quit and was hindu for 27 years, finally gave up on all the fairy tales. I was vegetarian for religious reasons only. When I gave up the myths, I went back to meat. I have lost weight, my stamina is better, and my general health is greatly improved.

I say eat whatever you want, support everyone else, and do not get preachy about it.